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plantmom Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:49 pm Posts: 12

Help with Color?

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MY HORSE IS NOT NOR WILL NOT BE FOR SALE!

Anyway, his previous owner labelled him as a Flaxen Amber Cream. What's an Amber? I've never heard of nor seen an amber horse, nor understood what indicates one is such. Is this inaccurate? Or, if it is accurate, what's an amber, and how is it created? Also, why is he so shiny?
Here's my boy...
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walnut the hamster Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:48 pm Posts: 1335

Re: Help with Color?

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plantmom wrote:MY HORSE IS NOT NOR WILL NOT BE FOR SALE!

Anyway, his previous owner labelled him as a Flaxen Amber Cream. What's an Amber? I've never heard of nor seen an amber horse, nor understood what indicates one is such. Is this inaccurate? Or, if it is accurate, what's an amber, and how is it created? Also, why is he so shiny?
Here's my boy...
i would say just cream
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Re: Help with Color?

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plantmom wrote:MY HORSE IS NOT NOR WILL NOT BE FOR SALE!

Anyway, his previous owner labelled him as a Flaxen Amber Cream. What's an Amber? I've never heard of nor seen an amber horse, nor understood what indicates one is such. Is this inaccurate? Or, if it is accurate, what's an amber, and how is it created? Also, why is he so shiny?
Amber is reserved for the champagne gene on bay.
Flaxen is reserved for chestnut and chestnut-based horses.
So, calling this horse a flaxen amber can be misleading. There is a chance that this horse carries the flaxen gene underneath his bay-based coat.
I think it was an oversight though.
This horse is a SILVER Amber Cream. Silver and flaxen are very closely related, in that they both lighten, silver-out or whiten the mane and tail (including feathers - the foot hair). The difference is that flaxen only affects chestnut and silver affects black, bay and brown.

I would agree that this horse is amber cream, indicating that this horse has at least one champagne gene (there are freckles, though hard to see on the nose and around the eyes) and is also a double dilute (meaning that if the one gene is a champagne, the other expression is a cream gene). This gives you this 'amber-like' coloration, though washed out quite a bit more from just an amber champagne.
If your horse didn't have the cream gene, this would be what he would look like (complete with the silver gene):



To answer your last question, his shine appears to be mostly created by training, however, he is also a metallic carrier (meaning very simply that he has a natural shine already), so he is a bit shinier (especially in certain areas like his head) than a horse without metallic.

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