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Where did he get dun from?

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I've got this Colt Agate

Dam is a buckskin AC Shetland, sire is a chestnut appy classy Belgian. Neither appear to have any visible dun. I thought dun was dominant. Any ideas? And if you've got any dunskins, I'd like to see them.
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Re: Where did he get dun from?

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Buttercup
And while I'm at it, is he minimal dun as well? Again, not visible in parents.
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Re: Where did he get dun from?

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Parsnip wrote:I've got this Colt Agate

Dam is a buckskin AC Shetland, sire is a chestnut appy classy Belgian. Neither appear to have any visible dun. I thought dun was dominant. Any ideas? And if you've got any dunskins, I'd like to see them.
Thanks
Agate's dam definitely has a dorsal stripe, so she's a dun :) That's probably where Agate got his dun markings from.
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Re: Where did he get dun from?

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Parsnip wrote:Buttercup
And while I'm at it, is he minimal dun as well? Again, not visible in parents.
You'll have to ask somebody more experienced with this one, but I bet one of the parents has dun markings that are hard to see, especially with the lp gene going on (the spots and varnish).
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Re: Where did he get dun from?

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Parsnip wrote:....
You could call Buttercup a minimal dun. Dun is also the reason that his brown and black body is in fact brown and gray.

Agate's dun came from his mother. She's a cryptic dun. Buckskin is a bit difficult to see sometimes, but the sooty-ness in my opinion is actually from dun and not from sooty. The fact that there is a definite distinction of buckskin color on her face that changes from a brighter buckskin down toward her nose to a lighter buckskin toward her eye is a part of the dun mask I've seen in many other dun-expressed horses.

Dun is dominant, but even I get confused about where some dun comes from. For instance, the following mare definitely has dun, but even I don't know from which parent it comes from:


She even shares the same visual mask on her face (seen best at the 1 year photo) that Sienna has.
I suspect if we could shave Sienna's mane, we'd see the same dark line that Agate has on his neck.
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Re: Where did he get dun from?

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I forgot to add, Buttercup could have gotten the dun from either parent. But his sire definitely has dun. Dun can turn brown horse's a gray color.
The dam, Pale Spring... it'd difficult to say whether that coat is diluted from dun or diluted from Lp.
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Re: Where did he get dun from?

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Both parents are dun.
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Re: Where did he get dun from?

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Thanks. I didn't realise it could be that hard to spot.
Good to know - dun's a good addition to my colour palette, especially for the draughts.

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