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Re: ages??

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BlackOak2 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:22 pm
slayqueenn wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:01 am

I believe it's after the age of 19 that the mare can die the same day she gives birth.
:D This is an old topic. However, adding some additional, personal experiences isn't necessarily a bad thing.

The age of chance-of-death is still 17 years. A horse can still be retired by the game as early as 17 years and two weeks. I suspect when the competition update comes to us (expected sometime today), the age will be 17 years and 1 week. But this chance is significantly slim. In all my time here, I have only had one horse go at 17 years and 2 weeks, which was years ago, quite literally.

In all that time, I've only had one other horse go within their 17th year.
Thereafter, I've had a small number (maybe 2 or three) go in their 18th year and the same in their 19th year.

But I've had enough leave in their 20th year to understand that chances are fair, starting at 20.
By 23, it's about a 50/50 chance that the horses are expected to disappear.

But I've also had a countable amount live naturally into their 27th year and later. The oldest stallion I've had (I think) reached 29 and I've had a mare or two that were retired from breeding after their 23rd year, live into their early 30's. I think my oldest mare was retired in her 27th year and she lived to 31. Though I've had mares live longer than that, that was pregnancy-aided.

To be clear, day-of-birth deaths is also the 17-year coding deaths.

Admin has not yet told us that this has changed.

:mrgreen:
I read (I think) somewhere in the discord that it was somewhere around 19 years. I'm working on my forum stalking :lol: , hoping to be more active so I can help out.

I figured to respond even though it was an old topic since there was a new post. :)

Big thanks for the information, I have it noted xD. I've had some mares live into their 30s but that's only because I was repeatedly breeding them and they managed to make it through each pregnancy.
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Re: ages??

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slayqueenn wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:32 pm
BlackOak2 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:22 pm

:D This is an old topic. However, adding some additional, personal experiences isn't necessarily a bad thing.

The age of chance-of-death is still 17 years. A horse can still be retired by the game as early as 17 years and two weeks. I suspect when the competition update comes to us (expected sometime today), the age will be 17 years and 1 week. But this chance is significantly slim. In all my time here, I have only had one horse go at 17 years and 2 weeks, which was years ago, quite literally.

In all that time, I've only had one other horse go within their 17th year.
Thereafter, I've had a small number (maybe 2 or three) go in their 18th year and the same in their 19th year.

But I've had enough leave in their 20th year to understand that chances are fair, starting at 20.
By 23, it's about a 50/50 chance that the horses are expected to disappear.

But I've also had a countable amount live naturally into their 27th year and later. The oldest stallion I've had (I think) reached 29 and I've had a mare or two that were retired from breeding after their 23rd year, live into their early 30's. I think my oldest mare was retired in her 27th year and she lived to 31. Though I've had mares live longer than that, that was pregnancy-aided.

To be clear, day-of-birth deaths is also the 17-year coding deaths.

Admin has not yet told us that this has changed.

:mrgreen:
I read (I think) somewhere in the discord that it was somewhere around 19 years. I'm working on my forum stalking :lol: , hoping to be more active so I can help out.

I figured to respond even though it was an old topic since there was a new post. :)

Big thanks for the information, I have it noted xD. I've had some mares live into their 30s but that's only because I was repeatedly breeding them and they managed to make it through each pregnancy.
Yuppers!
There was a time that a pregnant mare couldn't go on the day of their foal's birth.

But after the birth-death was implemented, we do still have old mares survive incredibly long. There is a documented mare making it into her 60's. I think she ended at 64 years. So if your luck holds out, you can have quite long-lived horses. The coding for chance-of-retirement never gets to 100%, so there is actually never a full chance of retirement. It just keeps going in the 99.999999..... etc. area with each successive turn used.

I think I heard the oldest living stallion made it to 37... ish. But it does seem that the percentages breach the 80 percentile somewhere in the 27-28 year area. Maybe. Which means by the early to mid 30's, you're in the 90% chance of retirement.

Very hard determining chance percentile on hard retirement numbers alone. :lol:

It's likely that we're a little early saying 80 percentile in the 27 year area. It's likely that the 23 year area (where the greater part of our horses seem to go) is more like a 40 percentile for retiring or even less, like 30 percentile, but we roll the die every time we take a turn and it's an increasing chance with each turn as well. Out of 100 turns, we can have it hit 'retirement' every time, even at 1% chance... or never hit it at 99% chance. Luck's finicky like that. :lol: And incredibly rude and gruesome as well. :| :evil: Little devil it is...

:roll: :|
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Re: ages??

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BlackOak2 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:44 pm
slayqueenn wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:32 pm

I read (I think) somewhere in the discord that it was somewhere around 19 years. I'm working on my forum stalking :lol: , hoping to be more active so I can help out.

I figured to respond even though it was an old topic since there was a new post. :)

Big thanks for the information, I have it noted xD. I've had some mares live into their 30s but that's only because I was repeatedly breeding them and they managed to make it through each pregnancy.
Yuppers!
There was a time that a pregnant mare couldn't go on the day of their foal's birth.

But after the birth-death was implemented, we do still have old mares survive incredibly long. There is a documented mare making it into her 60's. I think she ended at 64 years. So if your luck holds out, you can have quite long-lived horses. The coding for chance-of-retirement never gets to 100%, so there is actually never a full chance of retirement. It just keeps going in the 99.999999..... etc. area with each successive turn used.

I think I heard the oldest living stallion made it to 37... ish. But it does seem that the percentages breach the 80 percentile somewhere in the 27-28 year area. Maybe. Which means by the early to mid 30's, you're in the 90% chance of retirement.

Very hard determining chance percentile on hard retirement numbers alone. :lol:

It's likely that we're a little early saying 80 percentile in the 27 year area. It's likely that the 23 year area (where the greater part of our horses seem to go) is more like a 40 percentile for retiring or even less, like 30 percentile, but we roll the die every time we take a turn and it's an increasing chance with each turn as well. Out of 100 turns, we can have it hit 'retirement' every time, even at 1% chance... or never hit it at 99% chance. Luck's finicky like that. :lol: And incredibly rude and gruesome as well. :| :evil: Little devil it is...

:roll: :|
:lol:

I would have to say that breeding is a lot of luck because of the chances to get a specific outcome, same with retirement ages. If the earliest age they can retire is 17.2 years and the oldest (so far) they can retire is 64 years that would be a big leap for loads of outcomes which are random so would be determined by luck

(Though that's only my understanding of it, sometimes my brain can be a bit funky)
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Re: ages??

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slayqueenn wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:02 pm
BlackOak2 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:44 pm

Yuppers!
There was a time that a pregnant mare couldn't go on the day of their foal's birth.

But after the birth-death was implemented, we do still have old mares survive incredibly long. There is a documented mare making it into her 60's. I think she ended at 64 years. So if your luck holds out, you can have quite long-lived horses. The coding for chance-of-retirement never gets to 100%, so there is actually never a full chance of retirement. It just keeps going in the 99.999999..... etc. area with each successive turn used.

I think I heard the oldest living stallion made it to 37... ish. But it does seem that the percentages breach the 80 percentile somewhere in the 27-28 year area. Maybe. Which means by the early to mid 30's, you're in the 90% chance of retirement.

Very hard determining chance percentile on hard retirement numbers alone. :lol:

It's likely that we're a little early saying 80 percentile in the 27 year area. It's likely that the 23 year area (where the greater part of our horses seem to go) is more like a 40 percentile for retiring or even less, like 30 percentile, but we roll the die every time we take a turn and it's an increasing chance with each turn as well. Out of 100 turns, we can have it hit 'retirement' every time, even at 1% chance... or never hit it at 99% chance. Luck's finicky like that. :lol: And incredibly rude and gruesome as well. :| :evil: Little devil it is...

:roll: :|
:lol:

I would have to say that breeding is a lot of luck because of the chances to get a specific outcome, same with retirement ages. If the earliest age they can retire is 17.2 years and the oldest (so far) they can retire is 64 years that would be a big leap for loads of outcomes which are random so would be determined by luck

(Though that's only my understanding of it, sometimes my brain can be a bit funky)
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Re: ages??

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BlackOak2 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:42 pm
slayqueenn wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:02 pm

:lol:

I would have to say that breeding is a lot of luck because of the chances to get a specific outcome, same with retirement ages. If the earliest age they can retire is 17.2 years and the oldest (so far) they can retire is 64 years that would be a big leap for loads of outcomes which are random so would be determined by luck

(Though that's only my understanding of it, sometimes my brain can be a bit funky)
You understand enough to keep you going! And yes, there is a lot of luck to top it all out. 8-)
Haha, thank you! :lol:
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Re: ages??

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My horse picasso just went into retirement at 21yrs 0.7 months if that is helpfull

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