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Cathmor Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:33 pm Posts: 16

Re: Allow only breeder to change the horse's name

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Oh, that sounds cool. Okay sweet, his game is sounding better with every future plan I hear about :D
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Re: Allow only breeder to change the horse's name

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Why not just give all horses a registered name and a "barn name"? The breeder is the only one who can pick/change the registered name, but the next person to buy it can change the horse's nickname to whatever they want.
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Emkacf Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Thu May 19, 2016 5:01 pm Posts: 47

Re: Allow only breeder to change the horse's name

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I think the idea with prefix-suffix would be better so you can brand the horse with your prefix but new owner can change the name not the prefix.
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Re: Allow only breeder to change the horse's name

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I love this idea--both the branding and the registry. I don't think names should be changed.
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QueenB Offline Visit My Farm Visit My Farm Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:08 pm Posts: 14

Re: Allow only breeder to change the horse's name

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I'm personally of the opinion that if you don't want the name changed, don't sell the horse. That's the dice you roll- if I buy a horse, then it's mine now and I can do whatever I want with it. I say this though, having never changed a horse's name that I've purchased, and I really don't on any other pet sites either.

On another pet site you can name the pet for free, and then after that you purchase a (very affordable) item that is 1x use which will let you rename it.

I'm down for registries, and branding is fine, but completely locking out someone's ability to change the horse's name doesn't sit well with me. (mainly because the "issue", barring someone being a troll and giving a horse an inappropriate name, is you don't like that it messes up your aesthetic).

I humbly put forth a shop purchase request for a renaming item if/when a permanent name is implemented.

Seperate barn names and registered names will just needlessly complicate the system. What dictates which name shows up in which window? It sounds like a whole bunch of extra coding, when either a) not doing it at all or b) adding a rename item will suffice.
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Re: Allow only breeder to change the horse's name

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QueenB wrote:I'm personally of the opinion that if you don't want the name changed, don't sell the horse. That's the dice you roll- if I buy a horse, then it's mine now and I can do whatever I want with it. I say this though, having never changed a horse's name that I've purchased, and I really don't on any other pet sites either.

On another pet site you can name the pet for free, and then after that you purchase a (very affordable) item that is 1x use which will let you rename it.

I'm down for registries, and branding is fine, but completely locking out someone's ability to change the horse's name doesn't sit well with me. (mainly because the "issue", barring someone being a troll and giving a horse an inappropriate name, is you don't like that it messes up your aesthetic).

I humbly put forth a shop purchase request for a renaming item if/when a permanent name is implemented.

Seperate barn names and registered names will just needlessly complicate the system. What dictates which name shows up in which window? It sounds like a whole bunch of extra coding, when either a) not doing it at all or b) adding a rename item will suffice.
:) [Speaking for Scythian as well} Agree with most of the above. Don't play other online games so haven't any basis for comparison with other practices. Glad I bought "Dastardly" before changes would have been hard (that IS pretty close to "troll" IMO*). And his replacement name isn't necessarily as sweet/cute as may appear: "Buttercup" is in honor of Primrose Everdeen's yellow tomcat in the Hunger Games.

One of my broodmares was named "$$". Looking at her data showed progeny (just after purchase and before I bred her)! ***HEY EVERYBODY the name a horse dies with is the name that "goes down in history" including all pedigrees.*** "Tygrus Cat's Daydream" is an extrapolation from her parents' names. Most of my other horses/ponies have the names they came with. A few have been "Unnamed Horse ######"s, including the Belgian foal who is now "Solar Power".

The Random Name generator has given me a few gems, mostly for ponies: "Intergalactic Charger", "Eloquent Damsel", and "Princess Shield" all came from mouseclick land.

Any horse in the game has one true, unchangeable identifier, its serial number. Make a record of that if you want to be able to track the continuing experience of any one you sell. My experience with selling has been uneven, and I'm more and more willing to keep an animal** in my farm***. YMMV, of course.

I've already advocated for proper memorial pages, so that the animal's history remains visible.
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*On the same buying trip I passed up a foundation Tarpan, "Pariah", and pedigreed Arabian filly, "Evil GIft". Once I read their stats i understood, but still ...

** One of them had the happy fate of becoming one of Argent II's raffle ponies. He grew up handsome and mostly got fat and aged out on a fine pasture.

*** or Scythian's.
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Re: Allow only breeder to change the horse's name

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I try to keep my nose out of most of the suggestions on here, but I figure I should probably put my input in on this one. I am of the opinion where I don't really care one way or the other if someone changes the name of the horse that I sold to them. As of late, I've been naming my horses off of science and technology related things, so I completely understand if someone doesn't want their horse named after an internal organ or the like. For example, I've named my horses Đℓ Ligament, Đℓ Vena Cava, Đℓ Adipose, among other things.

That being said, I would appreciate if people kept the Đℓ (my brand) in the name, just because I like being able to go through pedigrees and see which horses were born on my farm. Out of politeness, I don't change the names of the horses I buy unless they don't come with one. I also don't get too upset if people get rid of my brand, it would be nice if it stayed, but that's okay.

What I have seen, and what does bother me, is when people buy a horse of mine, and then copy/paste my brand on a bunch of their horses that I did not breed. When I use the Đℓ, it's supposed to let other people know "hey, I bred this horse with a certain standard or in a certain way." It's misleading, in my opinion. Will I do anything about it, though? No not really. I don't have complete ownership over it and as things are now, anyone can do what they want.

Xant’hippe wrote:
:) [Speaking for Scythian as well} Agree with most of the above. Don't play other online games so haven't any basis for comparison with other practices. Glad I bought "Dastardly" before changes would have been hard (that IS pretty close to "troll" IMO*). And his replacement name isn't necessarily as sweet/cute as may appear: "Buttercup" is in honor of Primrose Everdeen's yellow tomcat in the Hunger Games.

One of my broodmares was named "$$". Looking at her data showed progeny (just after purchase and before I bred her)! ***HEY EVERYBODY the name a horse dies with is the name that "goes down in history" including all pedigrees.*** "Tygrus Cat's Daydream" is an extrapolation from her parents' names. Most of my other horses/ponies have the names they came with. A few have been "Unnamed Horse ######"s, including the Belgian foal who is now "Solar Power".

The Random Name generator has given me a few gems, mostly for ponies: "Intergalactic Charger", "Eloquent Damsel", and "Princess Shield" all came from mouseclick land.

Any horse in the game has one true, unchangeable identifier, its serial number. Make a record of that if you want to be able to track the continuing experience of any one you sell. My experience with selling has been uneven, and I'm more and more willing to keep an animal** in my farm***. YMMV, of course.

I've already advocated for proper memorial pages, so that the animal's history remains visible.
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*On the same buying trip I passed up a foundation Tarpan, "Pariah", and pedigreed Arabian filly, "Evil GIft". Once I read their stats i understood, but still ...

** One of them had the happy fate of becoming one of Argent II's raffle ponies. He grew up handsome and mostly got fat and aged out on a fine pasture.

*** or Scythian's.

As a bit of a side note: In response to Xant'hippe, I don't really see those as trolly names. While it does have a little bit of a negative connotation, I see "Dastardly" as more of an over-dramatic villain name, which makes the horse kinda dark and cool. As for Pariah, that's actually a really common name/word. I have seen many bands or songs use it, and I kinda take it as the "outcast." It gives the horse more character, in my opinion. It's also an Indian caste system too, so there is another meaning for it (not common, I'll admit). Then for "Evil GIft," I kinda find it silly. It makes me think of the "terrible twos," as they say, where a little kid turns two, and they become mischievous as all heck for a while there. I can think of so many worse things, and thankfully, I haven't seen any of them yet.

But, I'm also a different person, so I think you should be able to change the names if you feel uncomfortable with them. ^^
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Re: Allow only breeder to change the horse's name

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Registered, unchangeable names are realistic, and I'm all for realism. Technically, you can show a horse under a name different from it's registered name, such as OTTBs retrained for Olympic sports or approved by warmblood registries. But the horse's original registered name never changes, you've just given it a call name with some officialism.
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Re: Allow only breeder to change the horse's name

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I've had a few incidents where people bought one of my horses and decided to not only change the name (which I would've been okay with) but to change the breeder's tag to theirs. Now, at first glance, it looks like the horse has been bred by them. They did not put in the effort, they did not put in the money, they just bought a horse. A few of these horses are up for stud under their new name.
This really disappoints me and I've decided not to sell my horses anymore (at least for a long while) because of this.
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Re: Allow only breeder to change the horse's name

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I have only just skimmed over most of these posts but it seems there are a lot of opinions on the topic so I thought I'd weight in with the official plans here.

Once registries are added in a breeders can register their horses. Registered horses cannot have their names easily changed. By "easily" I mean that it will likely be possible to change the name after paying a fee (undecided if this will be game money or pony tokens). This makes it less likely that a name will change, while not making it impossible.

Breeders will also have the option to add a Prefix or Suffix to their horses name. Regardless of the Registered name, the Prefix/Suffix will never change. And will always link back to your farm. You'll be able to register multiple Prefix/Suffix to your farm in case you'd like to have them for different reasons.

Branding will also be added in with the option of the brand being assigned to the farm, or in some cases a brand can be created by a registry. Brands will actually appear on the horses image as well.

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